[Avodah] Avos uBanim

[Harry Maryles]

  T613K at aol.com wrote:
          From: Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org


    
: On the words "veshinantem levanecha" Rashi says, "velo livnosecha" -- i.e.,  
: there is no obligation of Torah learning for a daughter...[--TK]

>>But, as RAM pointed out, this goes beyond veshinantam levanekha. If
there are no children at the table, the wife is supposed to ask her
husband the 4 kashehs.

So there is clearly a gender-equality to this chiyuv that isn't present
in teaching Torah....<<
   
  >>>>>
  You are only repeating in other words exactly what I said.  I don't think you read my post carefully.  I said that in the case of "shinantem levanecha" Rashi says "velo livnosecha" but in the case of "vehigadta levincha"  he does NOT say "velo livnosecha" -- thus clearly implying that "vehigadta levincha" does include both sons and daughters.  That was exactly the point of my post.-------------

  Vhigaddita LaVincha on Pesach is a specific din in Pesach of Sipur Yitzias Mitzrayim - and not in Chinuch: Vhigaddita LaVincha BaYom HaHu - e.g. Pesach.
   
  The Mitzva of Sipur Yetzias Mitzrayim is a D'Oraisa derived of the Chiuv of eating Matzos as follows: 
   
  VeAmartem Zevach Pesach requires that one say the Pasuk from the Torah when eating the Korban Pesach. Matzah is compared to the Korban Pesach (Al Matzos U'Merorim Yochluhu) and whatever applies to the Korban Pesach, applies to the Matzah. 
   
  That makes the Chiuv of Sipur Yitzias Mitzrayim a D'Oraisa. So there is a Chiuv for woman to say the Hagaddah on a D'Oraisa level. Women are required to eat Matzah on a D'Oraisa level eventhough it is a Mitzvas Aseh SheHaZeman Gramma because of the Lav attached to it (Kol SheYeshna B'Lav D'Bal Tochel Chametz - Yeshna B' Kum Ochel Matzah) They are thereby also required in the din of Sipur which is attached to Matzah. 
  
HM


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