[Avodah] Sholom Aleichem [was: Tinok Shenishba]

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From: "Richard Wolpoe" <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com>
>>It  seems that many  conflate making a request from a Mal'ach with PRAYING  
to
a mal'ach

This is a gray matter. if the mal'ach has ZERO bechira  why even request from
a mal'ach?

There are those who say that a  mal'ach HAS bechira but merely lacks a yetzer
horo.  Then reuests [as  opposed to prayers] are reasonable.  If a mal'ach is
a machine it is  silly.

Imagine plugging in a vacuum cleaner and askig it to suck up some  dirt.
silly. There is no bechira.  The correct request would be to HKBH,  may my
vacuum do its job well<<

 

>>>>>
My understanding is that a malach is an  intelligent being -- in fact, a 
HIGHLY intelligent being -- and not a machine or  a robot.  A malach lacks bechira 
only because it (he?) knows Hashem so  intimately that having any will or 
desire other than what Hashem wants is simply  logically and intellectually 
impossible for such an intellectually and  spiritually superior being.  You can ask 
a malach for something that is in  the malach's power to do -- for example, 
it is in the malach's power to bentsh  you, if and when Hashem wants you to be 
bentshed.    This is no  more davening to the malach than asking your mother 
for a glass of water is  davening to your mother.







--Toby  Katz
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