[Avodah] R' Angel & Geirus Redux

[Meir Shinnar]

>
>  RMS wrote:
>  > The rambam is actuallly quite explicit
>  > - while he requires a priori investigation of gerim, once converted,
>  > even by a bet din that did not tell them about mitzvot, they are gerim -
>  > and if they sin, they are a yisrael rasha rather than not being a ger.
RAF
>  While you claim that this is the simple reading of the Rambam, that doesn't
>  account for the Rambam statement of 'hosheshim lo 'ad sheyitbarer tzidquto.
>  Rather, the Rambam seems to say that his status is in doubt.

As I said, I was aware of other pshatim and interpretations, which are
based on the understanding of this passage.  IMHO, The simple pshat is
that while he is considered a yisrael and a ger - he does not get full
communal privileges because one worries about the fact that he might
not be observant - he does not have a hezkat kashrut.  (the rambam is
in general insistent on being marchik reshaim from the community).
However, if his tzidkuto is not mitbarer, and he is found to be a
rasha, his status is that of a yisrael rasha rather than  not being a
ger.  Yes, there are other pshatim, but I think that this is the
simple pshat.
Meir Shinnar