[Avodah] adoptions of Non-Jewish children

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Jun 11 13:28:01 PDT 2008


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:40:44PM -0400, Rich, Joel wrote:
: I've wondered for a long time about adoptions of Non-Jewish children who
: are converted by bet din but must confirm there desire when they reach
: majority...

Lemaaseh, this is done implicitly.

a- Geirus is deOraisa, and therefore bar/bas mitzvah and assumotions --
it happens at two sa'aros.
b- if he changes his ming after acceptance, he's still a geir.

Therefore, the geirus is chal within tokh kedei dibur of the child
growing a 2nd hair. Impossible to detect.

Therefore, the kelal is that anyone who was shomer Torah umitzvos as a
child and continued to be so through that moment and after, is a geir.
See Tosafos Kesubos 11a dh Lekhi, and Tosafos Yeshanim ad loc.

The Tosafos Rid allows him to reneg any time between becoming a bar daas
until 2 sa'aros.

Similarly, your other concerns don't seem to me to be applicable:
: I did not find however a discussion of what happens to all the acts they
: did prior to renunciation (e.g. status of their children, cases where
: they gave eidut) Any ideas?

Since the geirus is chal because they were shomeri Torah umitzvos at
the beginning of adolescence, children and eidus are both impossible
until after the geirus would be rejected.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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