[Avodah] [Areivim] 40 Years Ago

[Zev Sero]

Simon Montagu wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Zev Sero <zev at sero.name> wrote:
> 
>> She'elas tam: mimai that "magreifah" was a musical instrument?
>> I had always assumed it was the tool used for terumas hadeshen, and
>> the sound came from the Cohen dropping it on the mizbeach, or banging
>> it against the mizbeach.
> 
> The description that sounds like a musical instrument is in Arachin
> starting at the bottom of 10b. See the last Tosafot on 10b, d"h
> magrefa, where he says that there were two magrefot, a tool and a
> musical instrument.

Thank you.  So which one produced the sound that was heard in Yericho?
And how does one learn Rashi, who seems to say there was only one
magreifah?  It was a tool *and* a musical instrument?  I can't imagine
scooping up ash with the sort of water organ you pointed to at Wikipedia,
or with anything that has holes and reeds stuck through them, and holes
in the reeds, as Rashi goes on to describe.  Is there something missing
from Rashi that resolves this?


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