[Avodah] tearing toilet paper on Shabbat
Doron Beckerman
beck072 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 3 11:47:46 PDT 2008
>> RDB: I think it is if one is going to have to wipe his Ni'a on his
sleeve (which is problematic on Shabbos anyhow).
RMK: Huh? What's the problem? <<
RDB: See Mishnah Berurah 302:(55) re putting a child on your lap without
something to block him potentially leaking on you. It's best avoided due to
a concern of one being Melaben the stain. Directly dirtying your garment
might be worse, though I could hear a Sevara that if you are actively
dirtying the garment you are showing that you don't mind it being dirty and
will not be Melaben. It may be, though, that you'll see the actual stain and
regret your hasty decision.
>> RDB: And for sure if it is going to drip out of his nose it is under
kavod Habriyos. See Rashi to Shabbos 81b that even having something visibly
stuck between your teeth is an issue of Kavod Habriyos. RSZA is lenient even
on taking medicine is such a case when the Ni'a is leaking from his nose and
is an issue of Kavod Habriyos (brought in a footnote in SSK).
RMK: Where is this footnote in SSK? <<
RDB: SSK 34:(52)
>> Would the same thing apply to a cough, which is annoying to those around
you? One shabbos a few weeks ago my allergies were particularly bad, and my
coughing was such that the person sitting in front of me in shul moved to a
different seat. I think he was being hypersensitive, but according to what
you're saying, it may have been muttar to take Benadryl or something to
solve the problem. <<
If it's just him being annoyed, especially if you think he's being
hypersensitive, (and therefore there is no objective reason for you to be
mortified) I'm not sure that falls under K'vod HaBriyos.
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