[Avodah] Any problem with reporting as part of a shiur summary

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:50:06PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
: Rich, Joel wrote:
: >that the maggid shiur (a well respected talmid chacham) in discussing 
: >whether there is an issue of hasagat gvul singing a song someone else 
: >wrote and copyrighted, said he doesn't believe people would "write songs 
: >that voices never shared" ? ...

: Those who would think it insulting wouldn't recognise the phrase in the
: first place, and so wouldn't learn anything "derogatory" from your
: summary.

How do you picture that conversation going lema'aseh? One makes the
comment, they hear and don't understand it, and they simply ignore
their confusion?

I would think that since the odds that they'll ask for explanation
and put you on the spot are so high, even bringing up the subject
is problematic. Usually avaq LH is where one is likely to be goading
the other into saying LH, it might include a case where one is bound
to be pushing them to goad you, but even if not, I'm failing to see
permissability. Or to see why avaq LH needs its own label when it's
already mesayei'ah. Which is directly linked to why I'm not clear on
why avoiding the formal category would help.

But in any case, if RJR's example comment would be LH if said to a BT
(or someone who simply went from MO to chareidi) who would understand
the comment AND think less of the speaker for it, then I don't think
making the comment is a good idea even to someone who won't understand
it without explanation.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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