[Avodah] Dancing on Shabbos - Redux

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From: "Richard Wolpoe" _rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com_ 
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>>Both from the wording of the Rema and from RMF in the  aforementioned IM
[which no one has seemed to consult --smile--] It LOOKS  like the heter here
is in the realm of: "Well frum people do it so it MSUT be  ok."  To me that
is a flimsy post facto rationale that has a very  slippery slope and is
easily exploited.<<




>>>>>
I know nothing about the halachic literature on  this subject (except what 
I've read on Avodah) but maybe someone can tell me if  this makes sense:  maybe 
there's a heter to dance on Shabbos precisely  because you are dancing with 
other people, but not to dance by yourself (if  you'd even want to). I'm 
thinking of the halacha -- please correct me if I've  gotten this wrong -- that you 
can't read by candlelight if you're by yourself,  because you might adjust the 
wick, but you can read by candlelight if other  people are around, because 
they'll stop if you start to move the candle.  
 
So maybe if you're dancing with other people, there's no danger that  you'll 
use musical instruments? (And BTW isn't the issur of using musical  
instruments based on the fear that you'll tune or fix the instruments?  So  not dancing 
puts that issur at two removes -- you /might/ use an instrument and  then you 
/might/ tune it.  If you're with other people, there are three  removes:  you 
might tune an instrument only because you might pick it up  only because all 
the other people in the room might not notice you picking  up the guitar in 
time to stop you.)
 




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