[Avodah] chametz gamur

[Eli Turkel]

<<My point was that even if everything was done kedas ukedin, I am sure
you will be forced to rely on the store selling chameitz gamur. Okay,
for the store it's arguably hefseid merubah in a way that for me it
isn't. (Although I would argue that adding another couple of hundred
dollars to the cost of Pesach /is/ merubah.)

However, for you, who has no such hefseid, you're still relying on the
storeowner's lack of chumrah. At that point, what is gained by my not
selling my own baked products?>>

I find this logic extremely strange. It amounts to saying that the store owner
can sell because of hefsed merubah but preferably no one should buy from
him. Doesn't accomplish very much.

In fact I had a similar conversation over Pesach concerning Shemitta and heter
mechira. If one holds that the farmer can sell his land because of hefsed but
the consumer shouldn't buy from him then again you have destroyed the farmer's
income.
You seem to be saying that the farmer or the store should only get a parnassah
from people who are not very careful.

In a different context RMF allows a company to use unkosher jelling devices
in icecream because it is batul be-shishim. He seems to consider this a
bedieved even for the consumer. i.e. if we allow the company or masgiach
to do something it makes no sense to tell the customers not to buy!

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Eli Turkel