[Avodah] Skipping Korbanos

[Micha Berger]

RMPoppers corrected me off list on something I miswrote back on Mon,
March 31, 2008 5:19pm:
: Yes, this is the line at which most people say the first two berakhos
: with the shat"tz before the heicher qedushah. According to RYBS,
: that's the only way to do it; the notion of repeating the first two
: berakhos after qedushah simply isn't in his system.

Obviously it would be the first three berakhos.

Also, when saying the third berakhah with the chazan, I take that to
mean that if he closes birkhas qedushah with "Ledor vaDor", I should
too.

Second, my apologies if anyone was annoyed by my quoting a shitas
haRema as being RYBS's. I'm just telling it the way my father did; he
came back from a shiur on Tues night and some point during the next
week repeated it to me. It wasn't something I had looked at
inerveinig.

As people who have seen <http://www.aishdas.org/luach> might have
deduced, I did once see the AhS OCh 232:6, who has the usual shitah of
repeating the berakhos /after/ the chazan.

BTW, the Beis Yoseif (OCh 234) records a cheirem issued by Chachmei
Tzefas against minyanim that do not do a full Chazaras haShatz. That
might explain our (other than the aforementioned kollelnikim)
reluctance to use heicher qedushah, even in the days of siddurim.

SheTir'u baTov!
-micha

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