[Avodah] two Qs re RYReisman's R'Ch'Nisan shiur

[Michael Poppers]

Tonight's shiur dealt w/ issues related to the first Pesach, that which
immediately preceded Y'tziyas Mitzrayim.  I have two Qs related to points
made by RYR.

(1)
RYR noted the issue of b'nei Yisrael allowing their b'heimos (90 donkeys
per person, according to one ma'amar CHaZaL) to carry all of the valuable
spoils of Mitzrayim on what was Yuntef for them -- weren't they violating
shvisas b'heimah for what was not tzorech hayom?  He said he found the Q in
the Chasam Sofer's writings and that the ChS's answer was based on a sugya
in BT Shabbos about preventing one's animal from doing m'lachah by placing
the burden on the animal (hanachah) while it was moving and removing the
burden (aqirah) before it stopped.  I don't understand how this answer is
relevant to YT -- isn't the problem of shvisas b'heimah on YT related
solely to tzorech hayom and not at all to aqirah, hanachah, and r'shuyos?
Perhaps I'm simply ignorant here, so I would appreciate enlightenment.  (As
I'm only up to digest#116 of V25, please cc: me on any responses to the
list.)  Thanks.

(2)
The Q comes up (RYR quoted it as being asked by R'G'dalya Schorr z'l') why
b'nei Yisrael rushed to gather the riches of Mitzrayim left by those who
died at q'riyas Yam Suf when they had to be urged to take those riches at
the time of Y'tziyas Mitzrayim -- RYR answered it according to what he had
noted earlier, saying that they were previously reluctant because the day
of y'tziyah was Yuntef for them, while there was no such obstacle come the
day of Q'riyas Yam Suf.  Yet later in the shiur, RYR himself noted that
said day of QYS was the seventh day and thus also a Yuntef ("uvayom
hash'vi'i miqra qodesh") as part of asking questions about Nachshon getting
his clothes and beard soaked, etc.  So was it a YT or not, and if it was,
shouldn't they also have been reluctant to gather those riches, as there
apparently was no tzorech hayom in doing so?  (As RYR, there's another tack
in considering b'nei Yisrael taking from Mitzrayim, one which involves
saying that they did so as per a Divine directive, but he wasn't using that
approach.  One might also note yet another approach, one which he didn't
mention: avadim aren't interested in riches, just in getting out of avdus,
but once they're no longer avadim, they might have more of a hankering to
gather riches!)  Again, as I'm only up to digest#116 of V25, please cc: me
on any responses to the list.  Thanks.

Thanks for reading and for considering an answer or answers to these Qs.

Gut Voch and Gut Chodesh from
--Michael Poppers via RIM pager
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