[Avodah] Skipping Korbanos
SBA
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Tue Apr 1 05:50:43 PDT 2008
From: Micha Berger <>
, Joshua Meisner wrote:
: What's the connection between saying heicha kedusha and learning all
: day? I recall hearing that the basis of the practice is that chazaras
: ha-shatz is a din of a beis hak'nesses, not of a beis hamedrash (or
: wedding hall, etc.).
If true Toraso Umenaso can bow out of Shema, a deOraisa, or at least
minimize Shema, why not -- by parallel -- allow a kollelnik to get back to
seder faster with a heicher qedushah?
>>
Do you know of anyone who in the past 2000 years bowed out of Shema?
Secondly don't Chazal say "Zman Torah lechud uzman tefilla lechud"?
Thirdly, (maybe the Lakewooders can answer this),how many davveners of this
mini version of Mincha immediately sit down to learn. And how many simply go
home to eat, nap or do shopping?
I recall once when the local Lakewood Kollel had a Shabaton out of town with
one of the guset speakers being Rabbi C Keller from Chicago. Motzeh Shabbos
after Maariv I noticed that they didn't say "Veyen Lecho".
I queried this with RK, who explained that it isn't said in (Litvish)
yeshivos for reasons of 'bitul Torah'.
I asked him to show me a single person in this room, who is now learning
Torah? Teiku.
>>I recall my father saying besheim RYBS that heicher qedushah is only an
option when there is so little time before sheqiah that the sha"tz couldn't
possibly repeat shemoneh esrei before nightfall.
>>
Not RYBS's chiddush at all.
See KSA 69:6 and SA OC 124:2 the Rema and MB sk 6.
BTW, see the Be'er Hetev sk 4 about a different minhak 'HaSfardiim".)
SBA
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