[Avodah] Lashon Hara about non-Jews

Richard Wolpoe rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Sun Dec 30 16:10:54 PST 2007


On Dec 30, 2007 11:08 AM, Kelmar, Michael J. <MKelmar2 at monlife.com> wrote:

> There was some suggestion that perhaps the Torah forbids us to speak
> lashon hara about non-Jews because of hashchasas middos.  Bad middos are
> already forbidden by the Torah.  If the lashon hara about the non-Jew is
> an expression of those bad middos, so it is assur.  But not because of
> L"H, just because of bad middos.  The Torah forbids lending money to a
> Yid on interest, but allows it for a goy.  The Torah is m'chaiv hashavas
> aveidah for a Yid but not for a goy.  Why aren't we worried about the
> effect on middos in those cases?  Charging interest from a goy might
> result in (or come from) feelings of cruelty, selfishness etc.  The same
> for hashavas aveida.  But the Torah says we can keep it.  So obviously
> the Torah knows better than us and has kavanos that take in to account
> our nature and purpose in the world.


I am not disagreeing with this just aisi this leads me to a very big kasha -
namely
Why are the rabbanan [Chazal] concerned about issues that the Torah is not?
E.g., mid'oraisso a brother  & sister  who convert are allowed to marry each
other [kek'tanim shenoldu] but derbbana say "iz past nisht" to be mattir
something for them that is assur for a Jew.

And there are countless others g'zeiros that have to do with the Torah being
mattir something that Hazal felt "is pst nisht."  What gives Chazal the
right to second guess the Torah?

If the answer is that it depends upon the generation/dor then ein hachi
nami, we should NOT be mattir beahvior NOW in our time that is politically
incorrect if it would lead to bad middos -

Or OTOH  is the answer something else?

-- 
Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
see: http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/


>  Sometimes b'davka speaking ill of
> a goy could be very beneficial.  It helps us stress in our own minds
> that a Yid is not a goy and that our first obligation is to love all the
> Yidden and then the rest of the world.
>
> Michoel Kelmar
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