[Avodah] Ashkenazim and Sephardim

Richard Wolpoe rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Sat Dec 29 20:17:05 PST 2007


On Dec 28, 2007 4:09 AM, Shoshana L. Boublil <toramada at bezeqint.net> wrote:

> > Michael Makovi wrote:
> >
> >> I read somewhere (I forget where) that the Sepharadim got their
> practice
> >> from the Geonim - just look at the Rif and the Rambam. Whereas the
> >> Ashkenazim got their practice from Israel through Italy. Where did you
> >> see
> >> this claim? Because I forgot where I saw it (but it's a nice thing to
> say
> >> to
> >> Sepharadim in Israel when they claim to be minhag Eretz Yisrael :)
>
> When Sephardim in Israel say that they are following Minhag Eretz Yisrael,
> they are NOT referring to the G'mara.
>
> They are referring to MARAN, R' Yosef Karo and his psika in Eretz Yisrael.
> He is considered by many Sephardim to be THE poseik in Eretz Yisrael.
>
> Shoshana L. Boublil


I posted this irony MANY years ago on Avodah.
EY morhped from minhag EY to minhag Harif etc. sometimes after 1100 CE or
so.
The process might have begun earlier.
There is a Gaonic work delineating about 80 differences in Minhag between
Bavel and EY
circa 800-900.

Rema's hakdamah to the Mappah apparnetly refeernces either this work or this
concept because he notes that the Disparaity between East and West is VERY
old.

Popular Belief, Convntional Widsom orr Myth:  All halachah and Minhag
devolves from Bavli
Reality: This was never 100% true but was mostly true for Rif/Rambam.
Ashknazim never  adhered to this principle - albeit Rashi did so more than
did Tosafos.

I will start a new thread BEH on this.

-- 
Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
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