[Avodah] Behaalosekha es haneiros

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, December 5, 2007 2:22 pm, R Gershon Dubin wrote:
: <<the flame old shouldn't touch the the new wick>>

: Never heard that;  where is that from?

Rashi on the word Behaalosekha. This unique way of lighting the
menorah is why it's called ha'alas haneiros, rather than hadlaqas (at
least in this pasuq). Usable in bar mitzvah derashos and yeshiva fund
raisers on that week: We teach by inspiring the student to ignite with
his own flame, not by trying to get our flame to burn in someone else.

: <<Second, how can it be mutar for a zar to light the menorah if he was
: already chayav misah for entering the bayis to light it?>>

: The Gemara answers a similar kashye with "sakin aroch"; why not say
: the same here?

Because as reading RZS (below), it's unclear he can't enter if he has
a purpose in doing so.

On Wed, December 5, 2007 10:34 am, R Zev Sero wrote:
 Since when is a zar not allowed to enter the hechal if he has some
: legitimate purpose there?  AFAIK only the QHQ was off limits to zarim
: (i.e. non-kohanim-gedolim), so that maintenance workers had to be
: lowered in in boxes.  The hechal, AFAIK, has the same din as the
: azara, that only people with legitimate business are allowed there,
: but such people *are* allowed.

Keilim 1:8 would seem to only let a zar into the ezras kohanim if the
zar needed to do a mitzvah begufo. I could see including bedaq
habayis, but am not sure if that would include a case where a kohein
is capable of doing the same job. But AIUI, the heikhal, not even on
those grounds.

SheTir'u baTov!
-micha

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