[Avodah] Borchu UVoruch Shemo between Borchu and Shmono Esreh

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Nov 21, 2007 1:12 AM, kennethgmiller at juno.com <kennethgmiller at juno.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Please note that we have almost the same phrase - "V'Imru Amen" - at the
> end of Oseh Shalom in both the silent Shmoneh Esreh and in Birkas Hamazon.
>
> It seems that a private amen can indeed follow a plural verb. In fact, one
> could argue that the gabbai's "v'nomar" is merely a case of the "royal We",
> whereas "v'imru" is more clearly directed to others.
>
> Akiva Miller
>

re: V'imru Amein in O'seh Shalom
We discussed this many years ago on Avodah:  For sources - first see Baer's
Avodas yisroel  p. 104 & 130 as to why BOTH have v'imru amein

Briefly:
re: Kaddish: the o'seh in Kaddish is redundant  because yehei shlomoh rabbah
covers the topic already in Aramaic. And o'seh is in Hebrew - does it really
belong to the Aramaic Kaddish?

re: Amidah  the v'imru amein is then re-adapted back to the Amdiah, although
it does not belong there. It should be at MOST Amein w/o the v'imru!  [iow,
it is a copyist/printer's error to say v'imru at the end of the Amidah!]
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