[Avodah] proofs of G-d

[Rich, Joel]

>From: Daniel Eidensohn <yadmoshe at 012.net.il> I was not talking about 
>understanding tragedy but rather using it to do teshuva by publicly 
>asserting causal  linkage.


So that I understand your position: Are you stating that making linkages
is OK as long as it is done an educational method, a way of getting
people to do teshuva?

Why not simply get rid of the linkage and use the tragedy itself to get
people to do tshevua? Instead of linking, the gadol could say something
like: "Tragedy has struck Am Yisrael. It is the responsibility of every
Jew, man and woman, to search his actions and find ways to do teshuva,
in the same way that it is the responsibility of every Jew to get rid of
bread before Pesach." Period.

The problems with linkage manifold. The biggest is that the
"philosophers" amongst us will all say to ourselves (and out loud) "He
doesn't really mean that this is the reason, he is just saying something
to get us to repent" and once someone says that then the impact of the
linkage falls apart.

Ben

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Yes, but iiuc the cheshbon is that the rov am will more likely be moved
by it (and I suppose that the smaller [and I think growing] group of
philosophers will understand and keep quiet for the sake of the
perceived greater good)
KT
Joel Rich
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