[Avodah] Women's zimun

[Sholom Simon]

> > Not trying to be repetitious.  However,  the text does not imply
> > "ought not" - unless one is trying to read into it.  It is dangerous
> > to read current preconceptions and problems into the text.
>
>Shitas Dr. Meir Shinnar: let the text speak for itself - do not READ
>INTO IT, do NOT bring one's prejudices into it. Do not presume one's
>shitos MATCH the text, etc.
>
>Shitas R. Micha Berger:  View any text with one's learned
>pre-conceived notions and see it through THAT prism...
>
>There is no way to havea meeting of minds with these two contrary
>pre-suppositions.  There would probably be disagreement about text
>90%+ of the time.

Fascinating discussion.  Let me add something else into the 
mix.  Suppose one is in a situation where there are two men and three 
women.  Might one argue that if women might or might not be obligated 
that they should make a zimun?  (BTW, has anyone in this thread 
quoted the S"A HaRav, who writes that (in the case where there is 
less than 10 men) women may even separate themselves from the group 
to make their own zimun? (199:6)

-- Sholom