[Avodah] Vayeitze "Watch Whom You Marry"

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Nov 12, 2007 4:40 PM, Zev Sero <zev at sero.name> wrote:

> Richard Wolpoe wrote:
>
>
> 2. Who says there was a written kesuba?  The Avos kept all the mitzvos,
> including d'rabbanans like Eruv Tavshilin, so presumably there was a
> kesuba, but Chazal seem to speak of written kesubos as a custom local
> to some places and not to others.  And if there was a written kesuba,
> who says it had to have the wife's name?  After all, the wife has the
> document, and if ch"v she has to collect on it she can just produce it
> and everyone knows who she is and who her husband was.
>
> --
> Zev Sero
>


My essential source was a shiur by Rabbi Maordechai Aderet.

He posited that AL PI SOD sod Reuven was handicapped as a "pachaz kammayyim"
at birth because the relationship that produced him was w/o benefit of
kesubbah. I guess you COULD say my question is on HIS SHIUR and not on the
event itself.

But to be fair, the assumption is that there WAS a kesubah is also based
upon the concept that Rashi says re: pilegesh was w/o kesubbah BEFORE
mattan  Torah etc.  The common PRESUMPTION is that avos used kesubbah.  The
idea of anORAL kesubah is possible of course because after all the Mishna
itself discusses it

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