[Avodah] lifnei iver/kanaus

Yitzhak Grossman celejar at gmail.com
Mon Nov 12 17:32:43 PST 2007


On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:42:03 -0500 I wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:28:51 -0500
> "Michael Kopinsky" <mkopinsky at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm WAAAAY behind on Avodah, but....
> > 
> > The Gemara at the end of Eizehu Neshech (BM 75b) says:
> > 
> > "Amar Rav yehuda amar Rav: Kol mi sheyesh lo ma'os umalveh osan shelo b'edim
> > oveir mishum v'lifnei iver lo sitein michsol, v'reish lakish omer gorem
> > klalah l'atzmo."  In this case, the gemara also refers to it as lifnei iver,
> > even though there is clearly no transgression taking place except in the
> > unlikely circumstance that the loveh is kofeir.  This is most definitely not
> > an issur of lifnei iveir.  It is at most a gezeirah/takanah.  (I have a
> 
> I disagree; many Aharonim seem to consider it bona fide lifnei iver.
> I'm actually in the middle of a mult-part series about this Gemara on
> my blog.  The first part is here [0], subsequent parts shall follow,
> bg"h.

The second part is now available here:
http://bdl.freehostia.com/2007/11/12/lead-us-not-into-temptation-ii/

> > comment penciled in the margin of my gemara directing me to Ritva Megilla
> > 28a where he says that this is not an issur, but a middas chassidus.)  The
> > same should apply to the gemara in MK 17a which uses a similar lashon.

In the aforementioned blog post I cite Aharonim who do indeed suggest
this, although it is not a very plausible reading of the SA, as one of
them points out himself.

> > KT,
> > Michael
> 
> [0] http://bdl.freehostia.com/2007/10/26/lead-us-not-into-temptation/
> 
> Yitzhak

Yitzhak
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