[Avodah] Mikveh l'zona
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Tue Nov 6 21:27:12 PST 2007
In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:17:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
T613K at aol.com writes:
Was Esther somehow slipping away from the palace at night, or was she
smuggling Mordechai in? She lived in a harem guarded by eunuchs, I wonder how
either of these scenarios would have been possible.
According to some Medroshim and Mforshim Daniel was in charge of Esther, as
well as having 7 Jewish girls, as well as Heigai helping her out. In addition
that according to the Zohar there was no problem at all.
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In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
yadmoshe at 012.net.il writes:
It would also seem that since the Zohar states that there was no
physical relationship between Esther and Achashveros he was the son of
Esther and Mordechai.
Lav Davka, See Sefer Medrosh Talpiyos (which I faxed, and hopefully R'
Micha will assign a URL for it and notify us), (also see Chasam Sofer Y"D 172).
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In a message dated 10/31/2007 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
menu at inter.net.il writes:
There is a view (Esther Rabba) that "vatitchalchal hamlka meod" refers to
her miscarrying. Also see a fuller discussion of this in the Yalkut Shimoni
there.
Yes! however the proof is from the fact that Rav had no problem saying that
she became Niddah even though that would mean that she had relationship with
Achasverosh during her Niddus.
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In a message dated 11/5/2007 7:34:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
salman at videotron.ca writes:
A couple of points:
1) In addition to the points raised by R'nTK, I assume that Achashverosh (an
absolute monarch) would consider any of his wifes found with another man as
not merely adultery (from his perspective) but even worse as treason - so
there was a very real risk of sakonas nefoshos to both Esther and Mordechai.
How were they permitted to risk their lives in order to be together for these
short periods? Futhermore, Esther's potential downfall under charges of
treason could not only endanger M&E but could also put her nation at risk again and
incur the renewed anger of Achashverosh against the Jews of his empire.
See above in answer to R'n TK.
2) How did all the sources cited by RDE KNOW exactly who was the father of
Esther's child? If you will answer that they knew with ruach hakodesh - then
why are their answers not in agreement? I assume that they should have come up
with a single consistent answer from a revelation by ruach hakodesh.
Based on the texts and the Pirush of Shimsha Bmuch (see Tos. Megilla 13b)
and Chasam Sofer Y"D 172, Medrosh Talpiyos, and many other Seforim, also on
when she became pregnant with Daryovesh see Maharsha that it was after Kasher
Ovadity Ovodity (at which point there was no more need for Much).
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In a message dated 11/6/2007 3:57:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sarahyarok at yahoo.com writes:
However, there was one part I never understood - on 'ka'asher avadti
ovodti". Possibly because we tend to have pictures in our minds of what we learned
as children, and we find it hard to switch to another view.
Perhaps!
1) See Medrosh Talpiyos, hence since here it was not an Oneis but Brotzon
the separation could not be accomplished.
2) The Meforshim say that the Zohar does not argue with the Gemara, and the
reason the Gemara asks how was Esther permitted, is only because M&E would
not do something that would appear Ossur, the same could apply here.
However, in my adult mind it still seems to me that if you go to request an
audience to speak to a king, he is sitting in a public throne room or
reception room surrounded by courtiers and advisors.
So why on earth, when Esther went to invite him the party, would we need to
assume that anything private or personal would take place? If Chazal say so
there must be some tradition or source for it, but it seems hard for me to
grasp.
As she was hoping that her Chein would save her from death, she was at least
prepared that it could lead to something.
Kol Tuv,
Yitzchok Zirkind
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