[Avodah] Mikveh l'zona

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Tue Nov 6 21:27:12 PST 2007


 
 
In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:17:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
T613K at aol.com writes:

 
Was Esther somehow slipping away from the palace at night, or was she  
smuggling Mordechai in?  She lived in a harem guarded by eunuchs, I  wonder how 
either of these scenarios would have been possible.

 



According to some Medroshim and Mforshim Daniel was in charge of  Esther, as 
well as having 7 Jewish girls, as well as Heigai helping her out. In  addition 
that according to the Zohar there was no problem at all.
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In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
yadmoshe at 012.net.il writes:

It would  also seem that since the Zohar states that there was no 
physical  relationship between Esther and Achashveros he was the son of 
Esther and  Mordechai.
Lav Davka, See  Sefer Medrosh Talpiyos (which I faxed, and hopefully  R' 
Micha will assign a URL for it and notify us),  (also see Chasam Sofer  Y"D 172).
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In a message dated 10/31/2007 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
menu at inter.net.il writes:

There is  a view (Esther Rabba) that "vatitchalchal hamlka meod" refers to 
her  miscarrying.  Also see a fuller discussion of this in the Yalkut Shimoni  
there.
Yes! however the proof is from the fact that Rav had no problem saying that  
she became Niddah even though that would mean that she had relationship with  
Achasverosh during her Niddus.
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In a message dated 11/5/2007 7:34:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
salman at videotron.ca writes:

A couple of points:
1) In addition to the points raised by R'nTK, I  assume that Achashverosh (an 
absolute  monarch) would consider any of his wifes found with another man as  
not merely adultery (from his perspective) but even worse  as treason - so 
there was a very real risk of sakonas nefoshos to  both Esther and Mordechai. 
How were they permitted to risk their lives in  order to be together for these 
short periods? Futhermore, Esther's potential  downfall under charges of 
treason could not only endanger M&E but could  also put her nation at risk again and 
incur the renewed anger of Achashverosh  against the Jews of his empire.







See above in answer to R'n TK.


2) How did all the sources cited  by RDE KNOW exactly who was the father of 
Esther's child? If you will answer  that they knew with ruach hakodesh - then 
why are their answers not in  agreement? I assume that they should have come up 
with a single consistent  answer from a revelation by ruach  hakodesh.
 
 
Based on the texts and the Pirush of Shimsha Bmuch (see Tos. Megilla 13b)  
and Chasam Sofer Y"D 172,  Medrosh Talpiyos, and many other Seforim, also  on 
when she became pregnant with Daryovesh see Maharsha that it was after Kasher  
Ovadity Ovodity (at which point there was no more need for Much).
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In a message dated 11/6/2007 3:57:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sarahyarok at yahoo.com writes:

However,  there was one part I never understood - on 'ka'asher avadti 
ovodti".   Possibly because we tend to have pictures in our minds of what we  learned 
as children, and we find it hard to switch to another view.   




Perhaps!
1) See Medrosh Talpiyos, hence since here it was not an Oneis  but Brotzon 
the separation could not be accomplished.
2) The Meforshim say that the Zohar does not argue with the  Gemara, and the 
reason the Gemara asks how was Esther permitted, is only because  M&E would 
not do something that would appear Ossur, the same could apply  here.

 
However,  in my adult mind it still seems to me that if you go to request an 
audience to  speak to a king, he is sitting in a public throne room or 
reception room  surrounded by courtiers and advisors.  
 
So  why on earth, when Esther went to invite him the party, would we need to  
assume that anything private or personal would take place?  If Chazal say  so 
there must be some tradition or source for it, but it seems hard for me to  
grasp.

As she was hoping that her Chein would save her from death, she was at  least 
prepared that it could lead to  something.
 
Kol  Tuv,
Yitzchok Zirkind



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