[Avodah] yissoschur zevulin and tzedoko

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:22:39PM +0200, A & C Walters wrote:
: Is there a makhlokos if a shtar is needed to establish a Y/Z
: relationship? I remember seeing either a CI or RMF about it, but I can't
: find where.

Shtar needed for fulfil what? You're giving someone money, and you're
enabling talmud Torah. I can see there being greater value in guaranteeing
the parnasah, so as to lift the worry from the lomeid, and to make the
commitment more real for the mefarneis.

But what chalos do you think is enhanced by having a shetar?

: Is there a kium of ztedoko? What about mayse gelt?

Back a step. Is maaser kesafim deOraisa, deRabbanan or minhag chassidus.
That's a pretty broad machloqes rishonim, with very different implication
about how to decide further questions.

But why wouldn't this be maaser? Does maaser require one not expect a
special kind of sechar for who one chose to support?

Or are you asking whether this financial arrangement works as a paycheck,
not tzedaqah. It would then have to be sechar bitul, since he can't take
pay for actual learning. And what would thaty say about the mefarneis's
contribution.

In short, I think you make too many assumptions about the "reality"
of the concepts involved that I am not as sure of.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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