[Avodah] tower of bavel

[Micha Berger]

On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 01:35:20PM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
: In general were there any people in EY before the dispersion?

Avraham got there 23 years later, and Malkitzedeq had already set up
shop, and the land was divided into competing kingdoms.

Ashur (the person) didn't participate in the migdal. Neither did
Sheim/Malkitzedeq nor Eiver. Nor, presumably, their students. It
would seem not every human being went to Shinar. Perhaps nations sent
representatives, in which case we are assuming nations already existed,
perhaps we need to invoke rubo kekulo to understand the pasuq. But given
that there is a known list of non-participants, there is no reason to
assert EY was empty at the time.

: 3. The usual question of secular records that indicate dynasties older
: than 3800 years old some in the middle east and some far away.

I'm loathe to go back to science-n-Torah. I don't know what I haven't
written on this numerous times before. However, those same records
also record a flood. So, there is /something/ up...

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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