[Avodah] When was the Torah given to Moshe? [was: Resh Lakish]

[Richard Wolpoe]

On 10/15/07, Daniel Eidensohn <yadmoshe at 012.net.il> wrote:
>
> T613K at aol.com wrote:
> > But we always speak of Matan Torah as having taken place on Har Sinai
> > -- as if Moshe was given the whole Torah on Har Sinai.  Anyway, the
> > idea that Moshe was taught the laws on Har Sinai -- not the entire
> > text of the Chumash -- does fit in with that.
> >
> > *
> > *
> > **


Disclaimer:  The following is merely a thought, an idea.

If one were to completely set aside what Hazal said - then what would you
say?
I would posit that as per the end of BehhikosAY,  X amount of Torah was
given at Sinai
and as per Ki Savo another chunk [viz. Bamidar and Devarim] as given at Ohel
Mo'ed at Avvos Mo'av   And yes Ohel Mo'ed might inlcude parshas Vayikra.

Well let's see, can this peshat be fit into the words of Hazal?  Not without
the help of a BIG shoe-horn! Nevertheless there could be a slight opening
here.

As per Ramban, The Kedusha of Sinai was transferred TO the Ohel Mo'eid.





  So now look at it THIS way.

Hashem gives entire Torah at Sinai.  The entirety of this Torah is NOT given
directly to Moshe at that time, rather Hashem transmits the
software/firmware into Ohel Mo'ed.  All of Torah that had been in shomayyim
has been taken  down from the mountain, but not all of it is known. [hence
questions re: Pesach Sheini and Bnos Zlofchod.]  The transfer of Torah
continues during the Arvos Mo'ab experience unilt by Moshe's death the
corpus is complete.

Bifurcate:  Matan Torah is 100% at Sinai From HKBH.  Transmission is
complete and much of it is it zip files or as a software Oracle

For those who have seen Superman I the Movie, Jor-el Talks to his Son Kal-el
based upon pre-recorded modules of Chrystal. Jor-el himself has exit ted,
but he created an  oracle for future consultation.


Kabbalas Torah is now an on-going process of taking stuff from 120 days and
night at Sinai plus further downloading by Moshe from the MiBein Hakeruvim.
This was password protected from others doing the same download?

and Is it possible that Moshe did not download ALL of Torah?

Well maybe Moshe JUST downloaded the 5 humashim but the havayos of Abbeye
and Rava are downloaded later.  Hence continuous revelation. But continuous
Revelation is not Hashem continuing to REVEAL new Torah, it is merely WE are
accessing more of the original download.  This dovetails with the Gmara in
Brachos that says all Megillos etc. are also miSinai. This also answers how
a G'zeria Shava could be between Humash and Megillah.


It also answer how could thee be bechira.  The download had not yet been
deciphered or accessed as of yet.It could also accomodate that Yerushalayyim
was chosen at Sinai and that Z'man Skimchaseinu referred to Binyan Beis
haMikdash at Sinai, but was not known yet.

It would also explain how the AriZal downloaded NEW Torah w/o resorting to
tradition.

But then again this is ONLY an idea.


Kol Tuv / Best Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
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