[Avodah] Fwd: piyyutim

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 01:45:30 PST 2007


<<Given Kallir wrote piyyutim for the Yotzeir
Given Remah [as in Yad Remah not R. M isserles!] - cited by Tur and
Ratified by mehcabeir [O. Ch. 68]] - objects strongly to saying
piyytuim at taht time due to hefsek.
Questions:

   1. How is it that Kallir could not have known the Halachah?
   2. How didt Ashkneazim continue to add piyyutim in the same
location for generations?
   3. Could they all have been wrong?
   4. And if they were indeed CORRECT - how could the Remah object?
   5. Or was this simply an aongoing Machlokes?
   6. So if Rema Isserles ruled it is OK for Ahsknezim to say them,
how come this p'sak was revised by OTHER Ashkenazim? >>

Obviously it was an ongoing machloket (as is the question of who
Kallir was). Many consider Kallir among the important poskim.

Question: There are also piyyutim in the middle of birchat kriyat
shema. Even in the chassidic shuls that I
davened in they skipped these. Does anyone know of any community that
still says these?
Related there is a one line piyut right after Borchu that is said. Why
is that different?

Even in shemonei esrei there is a consensus which piyyutim are
skipped. In fact Artscroll puts them in an appendix.
Anyone have any idea how this came about?


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