[Avodah] proofs of G-d

[Eli Turkel]

<<Bottom line: I think Judaism, Torah, and religion in general would
be better off admitting that we really do not understand how God works
rather than parading around our speculations about God and claiming
them as Dogma.  There is a certain hubris from people that claim God
wants THIS or God wants THAT. How do they know? Did they receive a
prophecy?  I can quote Torah or Nevi'im and say that God has expressed
Himself in a givne verse as demanding X but I cannot say for sure that
given thecomplexity of a particular situation that God wants any
specific action. >>

This is in essence the approach of RYBS . He was a philosopher and so
had the same problems. However, living in Israel,
ROY, R. Schach etc all know the reasons for every tragedy and
publically present a very simplistic picture.

Just to add one more reason to that of R. Wolpoe is th effect of
fundamentalism on religious thought. Thus, to modern man religion
represents war, anti-feminism and in general anti-rationalism.

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Eli Turkel