[Avodah] Kaddish Triggers

[Jonathan Baker]

From: Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>
> Richard Wolpoe wrote:
 
> > The usual structure is
> > Kaddish Yehei Shlamah after Mikra
> > Kaddish Derabbnan after TSBP
 
> Kaddish derabanan must also be preceded by mikra, which is why we say
> the mishna "R Chananya ben Akashya", which ends with a pasuk.

According to RD Moshe Sokol, not mikra, but aggadita, is the trigger for
Derabbanan.

When Debbie gave a siyum on a seder Mishnayos in shul at Shaleshudis,
she was supposed to say R' Chananya ben Akashya afterwards, before saying
the long kaddish, until R' Sokol noticed that the mishna itself ended with
aggadita, obviating R' Chananya.

> > Aleinu and Shir Hakavod do not fit into any of the above
 
> They're both followed immediately by a pasuk ("Vehaya Hashem lemelech"
> and "Mi yemalel") precisely for this reason.

but both trigger Yehei Shlama, not Al Yisrael.
 
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