[Avodah] FW: Re: [Areivim] praying to tzadikkim

[SBA]

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From: "Aryeh Stein" <aesrusk at gmail.com>
RZS wrote:
>>>I believe that you understand incorrectly.  If all you want to do
is invoke the zechus of a tzadik you could do that anywhere.

The Mateh Ephraim ("ME") (581:50) explains that the place of kivrei
tzadikim is a "makom kadosh v'tahor" and a person's prayers are
accepted more readily there.  .. and says that a person
should not direct his tefilos to the tzadikim buried there; rather one
should ask HKBH for mercy in the zchus of the ... the reason one should
not direct his tefilos to the tzadikim is because it's "karov hadavar
sheyihye b'chlal doreish el hameisim.

The Mishna Berurah (581:4:27..but a person should not not direct his tefilos
to the tzadikim buried there; rather one should ask HKBH for mercy in the
zchus of the tzadikim that are buried there.
 ME ...davening at kivrei tzadikim is to be "m'oreir the holy tzadikim to be
a meilitz yosher for us on the Yom Ha'Din."  And the EH mentions that
there are tefilos which seem to ask the tzadikim to be a meilitz on
our behalf.
And the notes at the bottom of the page bring down from the Zohar
(parshas Acharei Mos, daf 70) the question of how can we ask deceased
tzadikim to seek rachamim on our behalf - isn't there a prohibition of
"doreish el hameisim"?  ...



See KSA 128:13 - which more or less has ALL of the above...
When discussing the minhag of going to the cemetery on on Erev RH:

"...lehishtate'ach al kivrei tzaddikim...umarbim tachanunim le'orer es
hatzadikim hakedoshim..sheyamlitzu tov baadenu bayom hadin, vegam machmas
shehu makom kevuras hatzadikim - hamkom hi kadosh vetahor vehatefila
mekubeles shom yoser biheyoso al admas kodesh, veyaaseh HKBH chesed biz'chus
hatzadikim. AVOL AL YOSIM MAGMOSO NEGED HAMEISIM HASHOCHNIM SHOM - KI KAROV
HADAVAR SHEYIHYEH BICHLAL VEDORESH EL HAMESIM, ach yevakesh meHashem
Yisborach sheyerachem olov biz'chus hatzadikim  shochnei afar..."

RZS:>>  And it wouldn't explain going to the grave of an ancestor or
relative who wasn't particularly righteous, and hasn't got any outstanding
zechus.

I would suggest that when you pray in such situations, you are simply adding
a zechus or 2 for the niftar - and not davening for yourself (just like we
give tzedaka at Yizkor for their zechus.

SBA