[Avodah] Minhag Yisroel and Gra on 2 Matzos vs.3 Matzos

[Richard Wolpoe]

On 10/17/07, Richard Wolpoe <rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rav * Herschel Schachter states:  *
>
> . A matter of *halacha* which has been accepted for centuries can not be
> > overturned, unless one can demonstrate that there simply was an error
> > involved from the very outset.
> >
>
> *source:
> *http://www.torahweb.org/torah/special/2003/rsch_masorah.html
>
>
Given:

   1. Rif Rambam paskened 2 matzos at the Seder as per simple read of the
   Talmud.
   2. Gaonim have a tradition for lechem Mishnah on Yom tov
   3. Rosh/Tosafos say 3 - that sugya is superceded by the requirement of
   Lechem Mishneh
   4. Rema says 3 ratifying Minhag Ashkenaz
   5. Bet Yosef says that minhag is like Tosafot and Rosh and paskens 3
   despite his stated rule re: Rif/Rambam - Minhag Yisrael prevails neverthless
   6. Shleah - as cited by kaf Hachayyim says the only way to be yotzei
   lechal hadei'os is to use 3.

Question: how did the GRA revert it back to 2?

   1. Were Rosh, Rema, Shulchan Aruch, Shleah all beta'us?
   2. If so does this impact their reliablility on other matters/
   3. Did the Gra feel bound by the norms Minhag Yisrael - or by his read
   of the Talmud?
   4. For those who switched to 2, should they switch back to 3 - since
   the shita of 2 goes against the norms o Halachic canons as posited by RHS?
   ""one can demonstrate that there simply was an error" . i.e the error
   here is going against Minhag Yisroel.
   5. Is there ever a time limit on overtuning Minhag based upon error?
   IOW how many centuries o fpractice makes perfect or is it ALWAYS subject to
   revision based upon a better read of Talmud.
   6. How dorecnetly discovered girsaos of old manuscripts play into
   this?  Are they demonstrative of earlier errors and therefore dispositive of
   minhaggim?

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