[Avodah] When was the Torah given to Moshe? [was: Resh Lakish]

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From: "Micha Berger" <micha at aishdas.org>


>>R' Yochanan, who acquired Torah over his whole life, holds that  Moshe
got the Torah piece-by-piece over the 40 years. Reish Lakish --  at
once.<<

>>>>>
I was thinking about this very subject this morning (Shabbos morning) and  
meant to post after Shabbos, but forgot -- and then, providentially, here is  
RMB's post to prod my memory.
 
What I was wondering was, when and where did Moshe Rabbeinu receive the  
whole Torah?   If he received it on Har Sinai, did he come down from  the mountain 
carrying, not only two slabs of stone, but also a whole sefer  Torah?!  Or 
did he receive part of it on Har Sinai (minus everything that  happened after 
Ma'amad Har Sinai) and bring down a lighter, smaller scroll to  which he later 
added as events occurred?  Or did he receive both the  Written and Oral Torah 
orally and transcribe the Written Torah from memory after  he came down from 
the mountain?  And again, was it the whole Torah that he  wrote all at once, 
including events that were yet to occur, or only the Torah up  to the point of 
Ma'amad Har Sinai, adding to it later as events unfolded?
 
BTW I know that there are two opinions about the end of the Torah,  
describing Moshe's death -- an opinion that he wrote those pesukim prophetically  and 
an opinion that they were written by Yehoshu after Moshe's  death.   Can 
someone please provide me with the exact quotes and who  says which opinion?  And 
again, if these verses were written by Moshe --  when did he write them?  On Har 
Sinai, or right after he came down from Har  Sinai, or shortly before his 
death?





--Toby  Katz
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