[Avodah] German siddur questions

[Michael Poppers]

In an otherwise well-said response to RMK, RRW wrote:
> Exception on Mo'tsa'ei  Shabbos psalm 164 and 67 precede Ma'ariv w/o any
kaddish <
An easy typo to spot :-).  For the first chapter#, RRW meant 144.

And on a personal note:
>> We all know that in Chu"l you start saying v'sein tal umattar on the 4th
or 5th of December.  Why does this siddur say the 5th or 6th? <<
> It means the EVE [i.e ma'ariv] before the 5th o[r] 6th. <
Some years ago, I actually corrected my Goldschmidt-publisher
Roedelheim-print siddur's "5. oder 6.," replacing the "6" with a "4" :-).
For more on this issue (which both RMK and RRW appear to have a handle on,
and which I'm sure has been discussed exhaustively on Avodah and on other
fora in the past), see Section III of
http://www.lookstein.org/articles/veten_tal.htm.

Shabbas Shalom and Gut Chodesh from
--Michael Poppers via RIM pager
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