[Avodah] Kanaus

[Richard Wolpoe]

I have heard this story and I LOVE this story
I have been searching an answer to this question:
What it is earliest source for this story?

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Some remarks, Recall my earlier posts re:

   - Moshe who prayed for Israel before rebuking them at the Ma'aseh
   ho'egel
   - and Shumel who prayed for Sha'ul before rebuking him re: Amaleik.

Discernment:
If one feels bad about having to do the kana'us [or the tochachaha], yet
nevertheless one still feels it is the right thing to do or a necessary but
regretable "evil", then it is probably well--intentioned.
But; if one ENJOYS kana'us [or tochachah] then it is probably not lishmah.

Re: Tochacha that is Rav S. Schwab's point re: "lechishsan lechichas
nachash." It is a joyless bite.
I would guess he would have felt the same about Kana'us,, too.!

[Kana'us - Zealotry; Tochechah - Rebuke]

Kesiva vaChasima Tova
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On 9/21/07, Yitzhak Grossman <celejar+ynet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:16:40 -0700 RDE wrote:
>
> > The Shomer Emunim Rebbe told me that according to  Derech Mitzvosecha
> > that one can only be a kanoi if it doesn't provide pleasure or
> excitement.
>
> There's a story I love about a certain Rav [0], famous as a vehement
> zealot, who once reprimanded someone for excessive zealotry.  When
> asked, "But you, too, are known as a great zealot?", he responded with
> a parable:  A housewife imports a cat to rid her house of mice; both
> the woman and the cat have the same goal of eliminating the vermin, but
> the woman would ideally prefer that there be no infestation in
> the first place, while the cat is delighted to have rodents to chase.
> That's the distinction between us, said the Rav;  in my ideal world
> there would be no profanation of the glory of Heaven, while you live
> for the joy of battle ...
>
> I'm not sure how accurate my rendition of the anecdote is, but there's a
> greater truth here even if the details are incorrect.  [It should go
> without saying, but for the record, I *in no way* mean by that to
> sanction the use of falsehoods in the service of truth.]
>
> [0] I'm not sure of the identity of the protagonist, but I think he was
> a prominent Hassidic figure.
>
> Yitzhak
> --
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