[Avodah] shofar and guf naki

Richard Wolpoe rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Wed Sep 19 20:53:06 PDT 2007


On 9/19/07, Dov Kay <dov_kay at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <<>From the lengthy footnotes, it seems that the problem is that having
> kavana for
> the mitzva is a form of thinking divrei Torah.>>
>
> This argument is problematic, because it would mean that according to the
> Vilna Gaon, that hirhurei Torah are forbidden before birchos haTorah, it
> would be forbidden to do any mitzvas aseh before birchos haTorah, which is
> a
> problem for those who put on their tallis/tefillin before saying b'rochos,
> which is the common custom.
>
> I think that shofar question is dependent on the chakira (discussed in R.
> Frank's Mikro'ei Kodesh) whether shome'a k'oneh works by putting the
> shome'a
> in the same position as the shatz/tokeah (ie as if the shome'a had said
> the
> words), or merely by transferring the kiyum mitzva created by the
> amira/tekiah to the shome'a.
>
> Kol tuv
> Dov Kay
>
>
I'm not 100% sure but I would suspect that the GRA would say to say Birkas
Hatorah ASAP in the morning after Netillas Yadayim etc.  A lot of siddurim
these days have
Yadayim
Asher Yatzar
E.lopkai Hnesham
& Birkkas  Hatorah
as the first thing in the morning. I figure it is al pi the GRA

Our minhag probably follows the Rema

FWIW Artscroll has Kadesh and V'haya ki Yeviacah BEFORE birchas Hatorah and
I cannot imagine WHOM they are following on that one!  I have been meaning
to write them on this matter myself

-- 
Kesiva vaChasima Tova
Best Wishes for 5768,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
Please Visit:
http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.aishdas.org/pipermail/avodah-aishdas.org/attachments/20070919/a5041d1b/attachment-0002.htm>


More information about the Avodah mailing list