[Avodah] intuition in halacha

[Richard Wolpoe]

On 9/4/07, Eli Turkel <eliturkel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <I argued was the real basis for banning electricity on Shabbos. There is
> more consensus that it simply doesn't intuitively fit the idea of
> Shabbos than figuring out the mechanics of the issur.>
>
> <R' Asher Weiss based on the Yerushalmi says that this is what chazal did
> in general on w/r/t shabbat - anything that they felt s/b asser went
> into makeh bpatish.>
>
> I am now thoroughly confused are we taking about a de0raisa, derabban or
> less
> than that.  According to R. Asher Weiss did they classify things as from
> the Torah
> based on their intuition? Even according to Micha the mechanics determine
> the
> level of the issur. This is most important with regard to modern (non
> heat) appliances.
>
>
> --
> Eli Turkel


My guess is that electricity in general is still in flux.  That said some
preattim

   1. It is my personal conviction that incandescent light is 100% kosher
   light lekulla and lechumra e.g you can use it for havdallah and neros
   Shabbas.  {Ner Hanukkah is trickier]
   2. Most Halachic principles are pretty much fixed. What is new must be
   analyzed and teh usual method - aisi - is by analogy. If an incandescent
   light behaves more or less like a kerosene lamp - then by analogy it gets
   the same Halahcic properties. What happens on the molecular level is not
   quite so relevant.
   3. I am also convinced that electric convection oven is 100% bishul
   both for issur Shabbos and eqaully kosher for "broiling" liver.
   1. Would any serious poesik think that the issur of bishul basar
      bechalav via electricity is not a true d'orraisso?
      2. If you completely cooked a chicken erev Shabbos via
      electricity, would  it  be Bishul to re-heat it during Shabbos on a gas
      blech?
      4. Current LED's etc. I am not convinced about anything;
   5. Given: CI posits that closing a circuit is bone;  So, Is it so that
   putting a magnet back on the Refrgerator door also bone?  Is taking a magnet
   off Stirah?



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