[Avodah] Temple Mourning

Eli Turkel eliturkel at gmail.com
Sat Jul 7 13:31:16 PDT 2007


RDE writes
<<The reason I am mentioning this is I can't remember a single derasha
about the 3 weeks that didn't involve the need to be upset about the
loss of the Temple or to be upset that we weren't upset about the loss.
If it is aveilus then in fact there is no requirement to feel sad. If it
is a method of motivating teshuva than feeling upset is appropriate. >>

RYBS has an extensive discussion of these issues in the shiurim on
aveilut and tisha ba-av. He concludes that

1. The main component of sitting shiva is the sadness (kiyum shebelav)
and external activities only bring one to that state.
2. The main component of simcha on yom tov is again the internal
happiness. Eating meat and drinking wine are merely means to achieve
inner happiness. Hence, aveilut inherently contradicts yomtov even
an avel is allowed to eat meat and drink wine
3. The main component of the 4 fasts is aveilut over the churban. Hence,
the need to cry. Teshuva is a secondary outcome not the primary.
(the notes mention that Minchat Chinuch and Griz disagree and hold
that the 4 fast days have 2 components one of Taanit over the churban and
one of teshuva).
In particular RYBS notes that Neila is said only on a taanit tzibur
when the focus is teshuva but not on the 4 fast days where the emphasis
is aveilut over past disasters.

kol tuv

-- 
Eli Turkel
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