[Avodah] Retzei

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Fri Mar 30 13:03:20 PDT 2007


On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:09:11 -0400 (EDT), "Jonathan Baker" <jjbaker at panix.com> wrote:
> Which is nice, but wrong, since the author of the comment didn't have
> the manuscript evidence from the Geniza at his disposal.  It's an ongoing
> debate, whether the AKG gave us the form (18/19 blessings) alone, or also
> the content (text) of the tefillot.

I do not believe this is true of Retzei, which was coined for the accompanying the
Avodah, not (only / originally) for the Amidah.

...
> In short, what we use is the Bavli version.  The Eretz Yisrael version,
> part of which survives in our Duchenen nusach, didn't have "v'ishei
> yisrael."...

IOW, in our version they inserted "vehasheiv", and hijacked "ve'ishei Yisrael",
which preserves all of AKG's text, but creates the grammatical dilemma before
us. In EY, they *replaced* the request that Hashem accept ishei Yisrael with
a request for its restoration (vehasheiv es ha'avodah). Smoother but less
traditional.

A machloqes about the nature of the emendation.

:-)BBii!
-mi

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