[Avodah] Love of Israel

[Michael Kopinsky]

On 3/27/07, R' Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:
>
> Just to connect RnCL's dots... Since Achav was not mibeis David, we are
> /not/
> only talking about halachic government. Achav, an idolatrous king who
> ruled
> despite "lo yasir sheivet miYehudah" sets a pretty broad precedent.
>
> I therefore would think that her speculation about whether Medinat Yisrael
> qualifies as malkhus is a tangent. It's irrelevent if we have a maqor for
> showing respect for someone who is outside of "som tasim alekha melekh".
>
> Or would one argue that a non-Davidic king is a qiyum of som tasim even
> while
> being assur? I think it be mitzvah haba'ah ba'aveirah. You can't claim
> it's
> asei docheh lav, as otherwise there is nothing left of giving the melukhah
> to
> beis David.


Since when is "lo yasir" an actual lav?  Even according to the Ramban in
Chumash who says that the Makkabim were punished for violating this, that
does not make it an issur d'oraisa.  He doesn't list it in his sefer
hamitzvos, does he?  (I mean this question seriously, not rhetorically.)  I
certainly understood that it was an ethical directive saying "here's how
klal Yisroel should run", but a lav?  (This is even leaving aside the Ran in
Drashos (#4?) who argues on the Ramban and says that there is not even any
issur in lo yasir, just a nevuah.)

Michael
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