[Avodah] Ikkarim Redux

Meir Shinnar chidekel at gmail.com
Mon Mar 19 11:34:42 PDT 2007


>
> RMS wrote in part:
>
> we have  a greater
> obligation that we act right than that they believe  right




RSB
>
> Really-if as RYBS posited, both Bris Avos and Bris Sinai are the defining
> elements of Jewish identity, being Orthodox is as important as being
> Orthoprax-AFAIK, the psulim of edus and re shecitah of a Mchalel Shabbos
> are  because
> the person is a kofer in Brias HaOlam and Gpd's role in history.
>
1.  RSB's point is irrelevant to the main point of the post - my point is
that in dealing with others, we have a greater obligation with respect to
what we (not they - we) do than what they believe - which is irrelevant to
orthopraxy, orthodoxy, brit avot, brit sinai etc- except that the fact that
people's insistence on focusing on ikkarim sometimes lead them to violate
their obligations (under both brit avot and brit sinai) to the other..

2.  WRT to orthopraxy - in general, someone who makes kiddush and is shomer
shabbat is me'id on briat haolam.   The notion of hezkat kashrut means that
unless we have specific knowledge to the contrary, someone who is orthoprax
has the hazaka of being orthodox - and we don't normally check ikkarim....

Meir Shinnar
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