[Avodah] Ikkarim redux

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>>The debate here is whether halachic criteria factor at  all  into the  
ikkarim - but the suggestion that what ikkare  emunah are is decided  
by the minhag amcha - rather than by rational  analysis and the  
leaders,   would have made the author of  the ikkarim cringe...Yes,  
there are halachic issues where the which  shita is used depends on  
the minhag - and, as in this post, the  question was specifically  
which minhag was the accepted one - and, in  general, unless one  
believes it is a minhag taut one does go with what  people do.
However, the very idea that ikkare emunah are decided by the  amcha  
reflects a fundamental cheapening of the very idea....
(WRT  Artscroll - their acceptance is IMHO a case of minhag taut, and  
I will  leave it at that..)<<
Meir Shinnar
 
>>>>
As RMS has stated several times that there is no universal acceptance  of the 
13 ikkarim in our sources, I wonder a) which of the 13 are not  universally 
accepted as binding and b) which of the 13 he personally does not  believe.  
Also I wonder when he says that the ArtScroll's acceptance of the  13 ikkarim is 
a "minhag taut" -- I wonder what exactly is the taus that  ArtScroll has 
made, in his opinion?





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