[Avodah] taanit esther

[Eli Turkel]

Rabbi Teitz writes:


>      In Yerushalayim, there are apparently three times for tzeis
> hakochavim: 17 minutes, which is the time after sunset that the
> earliest ma'ariv is begun; approximately 25 minutes, which is the time
> for ending ta'anios d'rabanan; and approximately 38 minutes (which may
> vary slightly by season), the time generally posted for Motza'ei
> Shabbos, and used by those who do not wait 72 minutes.  The 25-minute
> z'man is listed in the Tikotzinsky luach (which is the wall luach for
> the shuls) for one motza'ei Shabbos as well: Chanukah, since the minhag
> in Yerushalyim, in accordance with shittas haGra, is to light at sunset
> during the week, and as soon after Shabbos as possible. Apparently, the
> 25-minute period is considered to be true tzeis, and though in other
> weeks there is an addition, either as a chumra or as tosefes, it is not
> done when it would interfere with proper kiyum of ner Chanukah. (More
> accurately, that was the situation 50 years ago.  I don't know whether
> it is still the listing for motza'ei Shabbos Chanukah.)
>
> EMT
>

I thank REMT for his answer. Indeed as he says even outside of Yeushalayim
the fast ends 25 minutes after tseis while motzei shabbat ends some 38 minutes
after tzeitz (for those following the Gra/Geonim etc.).

I still was not clear why this is not followed in the US. Since a fast
day is only
derabbanan and motzei shabbat is from the Torah it would seem that a fast day
should be over earlier especially since one is fasting (obviously)
In fact in most shuls in EY one blows Shofar at the end of Yom Kippur
quite early
and immediately davens maariv, when the time for eatimg is approximately
the end of Maariv so that the rabbi warns those not staying for maariv
that it is still
too early to eat. This is done in spite of the fact that it too is
from the Torah in order to
be lenient with everyone who has been fasting for some 25 hours.

kol tuv
-- 
Eli Turkel