[Avodah] Ikarim Redux

[Zeliglaw at aol.com]

RMS wrote in part:

the  incorporation of piyutim into the siddur was never  a halachic   
process  - it was far more minhag..

However, you conflate two  separate issues.  Do the 13 ikkarim  
summarize in some sense  important Jewish ideas - yes.  Saying them in  
yigdal is a way  of stating them.  Does that mean that they have  
halachic  status, that not believing them  has halachic consequences?    
That is quite a leap - and would need much further proof.....

Do  the ideas of any piyut incorporated into a standard siddur or   
machzor now have legal status that rejecting them is now  problematic


If the above is true, please explain Ramban's ruling that the recitation of  
Krias Shma is a rabbinic mitzvah while the recitation of Emes vYatziv is a 
Torah  mitzvah. Please explain the Nussach HaBrachos of any Birkas HaMitzvah or 
the  Mussaf of any YT, especially RH and YK. Malchuyos, Zicronos and Shofaros 
are  hardly just "ideas or any piyut incorporated into a standard Siddur or 
Machzor."  They represent statements of faith.
 
Steve Brizel
_Zeliglaw at aol.com_ (mailto:Zeliglaw at aol.com) 



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