[Avodah] daily halachot

Ken Bloom kbloom at gmail.com
Sun Jan 21 16:08:01 PST 2007


R' Eli Turkel wrote:
> >>: Seems strange to me that paying any worker in advance is less  of
> >>: a mitzva then paying at the end because he is not legally required
> >>: to  pay in advance.

RMB wrote:
> >> Me too. More so, paying up front means that you have less  chance
> >> to forget to pay.

There's a lav and an aseh involved. You're either cha
yav to both or 
neither. There are ways to pay (such as paying early, or hiring through 
a third party) where you aren't chayav to either. You're also not 
chayav to either when you literally don't have the money to pay the day  
payment becomes due. In the later case, the aseh encourages you to 
avoid the situation where you don't have money to pay.

On Sunday 21 January 2007 12:15, T613K at aol.com wrote:
> This exchange made me think of a question.  Today (Sunday -- "Shabbos
>  Sheini shel galuyos" as the joke has it), someone put in a new timer
> for me and  I paid him right away -- with a check.  Not it occurs to
> me that he can't deposit the check until tomorrow, so is that
> considered payment?

If that's considered a usual way to pay him for that kind of work, then 
it's considered payment. If it's not considered a usual way to pay him 
for that kind of work, then it's only considered payment if the 
installer can hand the check to the next guy when he wants to pay for 
something and use that as payment (which is not the case in the US).

(All of this is based on my reading of "The Halachos of Other People's 
Money" By R' Yisroel Pinchos Bodner, available from Feldheim)

--Ken

-- 
Ken Bloom. PhD candidate. Linguistic Cognition Laboratory.
Department of Computer Science. Illinois Institute of Technology.
http://www.iit.edu/~kbloom1/
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