[Avodah] Changing Havarah

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R' Arie Folger writes:
 
>>IIUC, what RPhEM was saying was that the Ashkenazi pronounciation  of the 
qomatz (ven shoin, denn shoin) has been lost in early European  communities 
and was reintroduced from Teverya, where the famous masoretes -  who used and 
spread our niqud system - lived. Thus, a  
kind-of-like-the-Latin-"O"-pronounciation of qomatz is correct,  
Teverianically speaking.<<

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It seems to me your suggestion is anachronistic.  Didn't the Teverya  
masoretes live centuries before there was any real Ashkenazi community, let  alone a 
distinct Ashkenazi havara?  
 
BTW, I have only ever seen the word "masoretes" used in English.   Can 
someone please tell me what the is the Hebrew word for "masoretes"?  




--Toby  Katz
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