[Avodah] Talmud Torah keneged kulam

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Sun Jan 14 08:41:10 PST 2007


On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 01:10:41AM +1100, SBA wrote to Areivim:
: As we say every morning...'vetalmud Torah keneged kulom..."

I do not think it's possible to be literal, beli guzmah. After all,
if talmud Torah keneged kulam, and tzitzis is keneged kulam (as the
Bavli puts it "veTaRYa"G mitzvos hateluyim bah"), and yishuv
EY is keneged kulam, at least two of those three are equal to themselves
plus another 611 mitzvos.

See also RSPooter's post at
<http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol16/v16n076.shtml#12>. (My reply to it
is missable.)

: Girls don't have such a chiyuv.

Vetalmud Torah keneged kulam is because of the chiyuv of talmud Torah or
because one can't do the other 612 without it? In which case, it would
be true for women too.

The reason to suggest this meaning is that it has parallels in tzitzis
and yishuv EY.

Without "velo sasuru", there is no ability to keep mitzvos.

The Ramban and Radaq both suggest that shemiras hamitzvos in chu"l is
just practice. Although I doubt they too meant that in absolute rather
than relative terms -- ie I'm assuming guzmah here too -- still the
notion is there that the other 612 hinge on yishuv EY.

Tir'u baTov!
-mi

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