[Avodah] Changing Havarah

[Michael Kopinsky]

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  All of the possibilities you
suggested (Avodah 22#15) are natural language developments, with the
exception of #3 (people's attempts to revert to original havara),
which is a) probably quite rare, imo, and b) at least an attempt at proper
pronounciation. This is very different from an
entire community deciding, with their chief rabbi, that they will now
start speaking an entirely different dialect for political reasons.
So while I also do not have a clear hagdara of natural vs artificial, I don't think there's much room to argue that such changes can be seen by any stretch as natural.
On 12/29/06, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:32:21 -0500, "Michael Kopinsky" <mkopinsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The difference is that I changed havara in an attempt to revert to the
> > havara used way back when, as best approximated by the that used by my
> > ancestors in Lita, or at least how I think havara would have naturally
> > developed if it weren't artificially arrested or pushed in another
> > direction....
>
> Except that there is no real definition of "artifical" vs "natural". I
> asked this question, and answers have just shown that it was even less
> clear than I thought it was when asking.