[Avodah] undeserved punishment?

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Dec 27 14:42:21 PST 2006


On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:25:43 +0000, rabbi at att.net (Mordechai Torczyner) wrote:
> Worth noting: The maamar chazal is that Moshe doesn't understand it, and
> indeed asks HKBH about it. That's hardly a statement that "no one really
> claims to know."

It's on "upanai lo yeira'u". Even Moshe, who saw more of Hashem than anyone
else was denied knowledge of tzadiq vera lo, which is what is meant by seeing
Hashem from behind. (Maybe that tzadiq vera lo can only be understood with
sufficient hindsight?) "Even Moshe" would mean "no one". So I stand by my
claim.

...
> I, too, am in favor of following the counsel in Kol Dodi Dofek - but
> discussing the approaches of Chazal, and pitting them against each other,
> is hardly declaring any of them to be definitive. It's legitimate to ask
> why one Tanna or Amora didn't take into consideration the answer of
> another.

I was posting in reply to someone taking one idea and posing it as a final
answer WRT a specific tragedy. I do not think any of Chazal meant any of
their answers as final, which was the thrust of my post. But even if not,
we can't take any one maamar from the resulting set that way.

Tir'u baTov!
-mi

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