[Avodah] Lo tasur

[Micha Berger]

On Sun, November 26, 2006 3:12 pm, kennethgmiller at juno.com wrote:
: R' Micha Berger answered:
:> If I agreed with your understanding of the Chinukh, how
:> about Ravina veRav Ashi and the geonim?

: In what way would "Ravina veRav Ashi and the geonim" constitute ONE
: authority?

Ravina and Rav Ashi's shas constituted one beis din-like authority.

And the majority of the geonic era had a single gaon in authority at a time.
This became a major issue WRT the calendar in R Saadia Gaon's day, as
discussed in an article RYGB developed (largely from discussions he had here,
IIRC). But that was bedavka WRT the calendar, where being absent from Israel
was arguably a point against RSG's authority.

: And if RMB would amend that answer to simply "Ravina veRav Ashi",
: i.e., Talmud Bavli, then I'd ask, "Aren't there cases where we pasken
: like the Yerushalmi against the Bavli?" (not that I can think of any
: offhand, but I'm pretty sure I've heard of the phenomenon)

Search the list archives for Agus, Ta-Shma, and the theory that Ashkenaz is a
product of a mix of immigrants of Bavel and EY whereas Sepharad reflects a
dominance of Bavliim. They give examples of where Ashkenaz rules like the Y-mi
or medrashei halakhah and Sepharad like the gemara.

It doesn't bear through the language used for diqduq, where (e.g.) Rashi
speaks of a segol as a patach qatan, reflecting Bavli rather than Tiveri
niqud. (Bavli niqud uses the same symbol for patach and segol. See
<http://www.lashonkodesh.org/bavelpro.pdf> for a unicode proposal for those
symbols.)

But back to the story, those texts are centuries apart. It's like counting the
geonim as multiple authorities.

Tir'u baTov!
-mi

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