[Avodah] Prophets are infallible?

[Micha Berger]

On Sun, November 5, 2006 5:52 pm, Zvi Lampel wrote:
: The Sefer Ikarrim says--as does the Torah--that the prophets other than Moses
: perceived and related Hashem's thoughts through imagary and riddles....

Nisht azoi pashut. For example, in Yeshaiah's first nevu'ah, he not only
recieved imagery and riddles, but a Voice taught him how to interpret the
nevu'ah. Shemu'el misidentified his first nevu'ah for Eili calling his name;
it would seem it too was composed of straight words the way people talk to
eachother.

I don't know how to resolve this with the Ikkarim.

I have also argued that there are two shitos as to what nevu'ah is: The Ramban
seems to work from the position that nevu'ah is a message from the Borei. The
Rambam, OTOH, seems to hold that nevu'ah is a perception of what's going on
spiritually. Perception of real things, presumably clouded by the mind trying
to perceive it in familiar terms. The issue comes to a head over (1) the
Ramban's questions on the Rambam's take on the mal'achim in Vayeira, and (2)
the Rambam's and Rav Saadia's insistence that the "Man" in the throne at
ma'amad Har Sinai and on the Merkavah was the kavod nivra.

See <http://www.aishdas.org/mesukim/5764/mishpatim.pdf>.

Are you saying the Ikkarim explicitly sides with the position I believe is the
Ramban's?

Tir'u baTov!
-mi

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