[Avodah] Zmanim

[Minden]

R'  Tzvi Stein wrote about Kabbolas Shabbes after tzeis hakkouchovem:

> Oh, it's allowed all right.  Kabbalas Shabbos is similar to kiddush halachically, in that just as you can make kiddush either before sunset (common in the summer months) or after sunset, you can also say Kabbalas Shabbos before or after sunset.

You can make kiddesh before or after shkie and nacht, but kiddesh is the "sanctification" (or: declaration of the distinctiveness) of Shabbes, while Kabbolas Shabbes is explicitly the reception and acceptance of Shabbes as of now, originally in the fields and all that jazz. I don't see how you can be mekabbel Shabbes after the shkie.


> You may be even more surprised to learn that, although not commonly done, it is allowed to daven the Motzei Shabbos maariv (including "atah chanantanu") and say Havdala over a cup of wine, on Shabbos afternoon after Plag HaMincha (omitting the flame).  This is only allowed in cases where you would not otherwise be able to daven or make havdala (i.e. you have to depart on a long trip the instant that Shabbos is over).  We are also not concerned here that people will think Shabbos is over.

I'm not surprised as in "hadn't known", but the concept of making Havdole is indeed difficult, as opposed to saying Maaref before the end of Shabbes, but without Atto chounantonu.


> I guess the overall reason for this lack of concern in halacha is that it is assumed that everyone knows that Shabbos is governed by the sun, so they will not get confused by seeing kiddush, kabalas Shabbos, or havdala done at "less than ideal" times.

This danger of confusion I mentioned is only a side aspects maybe. What's really hard to understand is the explicitly pre-Shabbes addition and explicitly being mekabbel Shabbes only in mitten Shabbes.

Lipman Phillip Minden
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