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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 01:30 AM CST</p>
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<p>FWIW Kesubos 85a Rava unconditionally accepts the testimony of his wife [both a woman AND A a relative] regarding the trustworthiness of a omwn re: giving an oath but rejects the ingular testimony of Rav Pappa because he is ONLY 1 witness! </p>
<p>Rava ssates: re: bas rav Hisda [i.e his own wife} I am CERTAIN she would not lie, about Rav Pappa I am not so positive.</p>
<p>KT<br />
RRW</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 01:25 AM CST</p>
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<p>See Artscrol Kesubos 85a note 17: in later tiems when econmic conditions changed the enacted that even movable items…</p>
<p>See ARtscroll Kesubos 85a3 note 26: Rif citing a Gaon that no judge can decare… even though it is found in the Talmud…</p>
<p>See Artscroll Kesubbos 85a2 note 10 all 3 laws are clear and uncontested neverthelss Rambam states taht nowadays no judge may exact property from orphans on the basis of his own assessment</p>
<p>KT<br />
RRW</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 01:10 AM CST</p>
<div style="margin:0;font-family:Times New Roman, Times, serif;line-height:140%;font-size:12px;color:#000000;"><p>“”Or, amoraim were unwilling/unable to dispute the conclusions reached by tanaim, In numerous places an amora’s position is questioned on the grounds “vehatenan — but didn’t the tanna say otherwise?” The inability to dispute a tanna was a given.”"</p>
<p>An amora could not dispute a Tannaitic statement otright. OTOH amoraim qualify virutalyl any and every Tannaitic statement and limt or expand its scope. </p>
<p>Even today, suicides are nearly ALWAYS deemed shelo midaa’s. Thsi was not always the case and in earlier generations suicides wer often buried at the edge of a cemetery. This is rare today. We have raised the bar of “mida’ato” so that virtually any suicied is ruled against their will.</p>
<p>There is a worthwhile read by Ruth Sandberg on the expansion and contraction of Halchic norms over the generations</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 12:50 AM CST</p>
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<p>I would suggest reading Dr. Jacob {ya’alkov] Katz’s works espcially Shabbos Go and his artcile on permitting travelling on a boat on Shabbos for “end-driven” pesak.</p>
<p>I would suggest taht O p’sak is often “goal driven” sometimes to be mattir what is being done [e.g. clapping/dancing on Shabbos] or to produce issurim where there used to be none [e.g. women reading the Megillah for themselves or for other women - celearly permittd by Beis Yosef himself a Kabbalist] </p>
<p>I am not sure how clapping/slpping on Shabbos for musical purposes is any better halahcially than playing a guitra on Shabbos, the same Talmudic g’zeria applies - shema yetkanken klei shir. I am bewildered as to how the current halachic norms are objective on this matter, either BOTH should be assur or BOTH muttar. </p>
<p>Maybe C halahc IS highly subjective, but are we wiling to use this lense on ourselves, too, or only focus on the shortcomings of others?</p>
<p>Shouldn’t keshot atzmecha v’achar kach keshot acheirim exhort us to greater objectivity and fairness in our own pesak BEFORE we point fingers?</p>
<p>KT<br />
RRW</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 12:42 AM CST</p>
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<p>The 10 commandments imporews us that our animals are to ‘rest” on Shabbos just as we do.</p>
<p>yet the Tur [end of orach chayyim Siman 246] quoting Rabbeinu peretzsays that a simple act of hefker beino uvein atzmo FOR THE DURATION OF SHABBOS ONLY is sufficient to be mattir a Jew to have aGentile hire his animal on Shabbos despite the Biblical requirement of “shevisas behemto” “af al pi she’eino mafkir legamrei… ayein sham</p>
<p>re: consistencies: how differenet really is this then the C loophole of selling one’s business on Shabbos? </p>
<p>KT<br />
RRw</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 12:36 AM CST</p>
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<p>there is zero prohibition of listening to music in the omer nor of parting in the rishonim</p>
<p>the ONLY issur is reikkudim to music. This morphed by the acharonim to go further.</p>
<p>The original Rishonic model would permit BOTH<br />
listening to music as in a concert<br />
partying bu w/o any musical accompaniment</p>
<p>Any other model is strictly an aharonic humra, and not ikkar halacha.</p>
<p>This can be verified by reading the Tur and Beis yosef, the Shulchan aruch etc The first introduction of greater issur is the Magen Avrham and is codified by the Aruch hshulchan</p>
<p>What has happened is givne the facts on the ground after these humros are in place an anchronistic ratoinalization is formed to make this the structure of the original aveilus. the Tur says “miktzas aveilus” So does the Kitzur.<br />
KT<br />
RRW</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 12:31 AM CST</p>
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OK the Bavli require Hasiba whilst reclining [leaning on the left]<br />
Tosafos notes that we do not eat on smll tables but around large ones.<br />
The Rabiya claims tht his requiremnt is no longer applicable in our society</p>
<p>But the Yesushalmi obivates this problem by noting that the Seder rquires Hasiba in order “not to eat standing like a servant [eved] ”</p>
<p>I have not seen teh Ra’abiyah inside but I have not noticed any of the poskim factoring in this Yerushal inot the equation. Why not? if would be a perfect ’snif” to be mattir NO hassiba in modern times.</p>
<p>Here is the fuzzy logic:<br />
Y requires just don’t stand<br />
B requires leaning on left</p>
<p>pesak followed B</p>
<p>But now that we do not dine like they did in ancient times why not shift to the Y model anyway w/o any sophisticated arguments to back this switch?</p>
<p>KT<br />
RRW</p>
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<span>Posted:</span> 04 Dec 2007 12:24 AM CST</p>
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<p>That is because once DDT was withdrawn more bugs were actually IN the vegetables. During the DDT era, Veggies were frequently bug-free and inspection was not so important</p>
<p>It is like inspecting eggs in the era of candled eggs. Very few eggs have serious blood problems</p>
<p>KT<br />
RRW</p>
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